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The Real Willard
PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 7:11 pm    Post subject:

Looks like I am just going to keep my current computer--and use the money to paint the inside of my house:)

I may up my RAM to 16 GB.

I currently have a: AMD FX(tm)-4350 Quad-Core Processor, 4200 Mhz, 2 Core(s), 4 Logical Processor(s)

with 2X AMD Radion HD 6670s, 8GB RAM, and a 240 GB SSD ,and 1TB HD. I run 2 monitors 1-27in and 1 23 in


PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:17 pm    Post subject:

*Your experience may vary.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 1:00 pm    Post subject:

Cremorne wrote:

Corsair is a poor choice. Period.

:: shrugs :: 

I can't remember ever being so pleased by a power supply. This thing is pretty nice and the RoG software does a fine job managing it.  I like it better than some of the sillier ones I've owned previously.

Also, I *did* posit my pile of parts as an affordable alternative to some of the top end stuff on display Happy  My only contributing point was that you can play this game on ultra without going berserk.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 23, 2015 11:42 am    Post subject:

Gostav here. This looks like good system, but it lacks DAP (data access performance). There's just no way I would spend that much money and run that kind of hard drive. A PCI-e internal (slot) SSD drive is more than a good idea here. This is a good example

It's not as much how much money you spend as it is what you buy.

The internal slot SSD uses a direct connection to the system data bus eliminating the bottleneck of a SATA controller and in many cases is three times as fast as a SSD using a SATA data stream connection.

One of the major bottlenecks in modern PC's continues to be getting the data that needs processed to the CPU and RAM and such. Look at the numbers on the above card and compare to the listed drive. Yes, it makes THAT much of a difference. I'm talking measuring load times in fractions of seconds to seconds. Imagine an ESO load screen up in the blink of an eye. I'm not kidding here. Don't spend money on old tech.

Another note: A good clean single rail power supply should be used. Corsair is not in my opinion a good choice for a manufacturer of any components in a PC. Their reputation in DOA sales and returns and my experience keeps me away from them. Even for a case. A PS is more critical than many think as the system depends on it for clean available power. Today's GPU's require a large amount of clean, reliable power. There's no such thing as overkilling a power supply. Honestly, Corsair is a poor choice. Period.

Other notes: Unless you really get into overclocking, liquid cooling is NOT NEEDED at all. It looks cool, but it raises overall cost, maintenance and failure opportunities. If you don't plan on OCing, save the money, power consumption and moving parts. BTW, a good build always has the power supply in the top of the case. The PS fan in that position assists in heat exhaust without additional power requirements or moving parts. On gaming systems, the RAM capacity of the motherboard should be maxed out. RAM is the PC "chalkboard". Give it a nice big one. For god's sake man, don't buy Corsair RAM. OMG The beauty of a build PC is you tailor it to your use/ needs. Spend money where it is needed. An impressive light show doesn't load screens faster. An older 6 core Intel I7 Extreme with a touch of OC will still outperform the newest I7's in the right configuration. Pick your components carefully. You could save a lot of money.

OK, I'm rambling a bit: Don't forget to spend money on a monitor (not TV) that can display all those fancy graphics. All that high powered hardware going into an inferior monitor is a crime. Look to spend $1,000 on a 30" monitor. Trust me here. It's worth it. 

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:36 am    Post subject:

The perfectly adequate computer I built in June that runs the game just fine on mostly Ultra and didn’t cost an arm and a leg.  I also don’t have the high end computer blues.

From NewEgg:

  • 1 x CORSAIR HXi HX850i CP-9020073-NA 850W ATX12V / EPS12V 80 PLUS PLATINUM Certified Full Modular Power Supply

  • 1 x Rosewill Gaming Computer Case - BLACKHAWK - ATX Mid Tower - Top HDD Dock, Side Window Panel, 5 Preinstalled Fans

  • 1 x Intel Core i7-4790K Devil’s Canyon Quad-Core 4.0 GHz LGA 1150 BX80646I74790K Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics ...

  • 1 x ASUS ROG MAXIMUS VII HERO LGA 1150 Intel Z97 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Gaming Motherboard

  • 1 x CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2133 Desktop Memory Model CMY16GX3M2A2133C11R (Red)

  • $996


From Amazon:

  • Samsung 850 EVO 500GB 2.5-Inch SATA III Internal SSD (MZ-75E500B/AM) 

  • $164 (I have 2 of these, but that's just me) 

  • EVGA GeForce GTX 750Ti with G-SYNC Support 2GB GDDR5 128bit, Dual-Link, DVI-I, HDMI, DP Graphics Card (02G-P4-3751-KR) 

  • $130  (I have 2 of these and run 3 monitors)

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 8:28 am    Post subject:

16 GB of RAM should be plenty when paired with an SSD.  With a HD, the 32 GB can be useful for disk caching I would assume.  But many games and apps are still 32 bit and can only use up to 4 GB of RAM.

PostPosted: Mon Sep 21, 2015 7:36 am    Post subject:

The Real Willard wrote:

The 256GB SANDISK is an SSD. I have an SSD in my current rig and will never go back to a standard hard drive except as storage.
Was also thinking 32 gigs of ram with two
GTX TITANs but that would add a lot more $$$.

I really don't think that 32 GB of RAM is going to do you any good. Windows does not know how to use that much RAM (at least Windows 7 didn't...not sure about Windows 10) so you would be spending a lot of money and not getting any return on it. I have 16GB in my rig and have never had any problems with it at all.

I have not stayed current on Video Card tech, so I cannot talk to the dual video card pairing options.

PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 8:06 pm    Post subject:

I actually had the pleasure to build a system with 2 SLI Titan X's for a friend. Cost him about $5000 because of his impatience and buying everything in-store. That sucker screams though @ 4K!

I would suggest checking out the GTX 980 Ti SC+. It performs the same and in some cases exceeds the performance of the Titan X for hundreds $ less. It just has less memory (6GB). I just bought this card as my birthday gift to myself last week. I run 5760x1080 (triple monitors). I haven't had the chance to test it out during PvP or AvA yet. That will be the true test. 

The Real Willard
PostPosted: Sun Sep 20, 2015 3:40 pm    Post subject:

Thanks...I agree two Titans would be over kill I run 2 1080p HD monitors one 27 in and one 23. What I really want is a computer that will not bog down when we are fighting with huge groups of people in game.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 7:08 pm    Post subject:

Hi Willard! What monitor/resolution will you be driving with those two Titans?  I ask as it is way overkill for a 1080P from a TV of standard monitor.  You'd want to be driving a 4K display with that much power or it would simply be more power than games can currently make use of.

I'm not as big of a fan of SLI esp on non-X99 platforms as you have fewer PCIE lanes available.  If you are driving one 1080P HD monitor or TV, I'd cut it down to one Titan as it should be fine, but if you really want two cards, go for it!  You may want to focus on a larger SSD like a 480 or 512, as ESO will take up a good bit of space on it alone.  Samsung and Intel SSD's are the ones I recommend.  That is more important than RAM as the RAM is easier to upgrade after it is operational.


The Real Willard
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 4:19 pm    Post subject:

The 256GB SANDISK is an SSD. I have an SSD in my current rig and will never go back to a standard hard drive except as storage.
Was also thinking 32 gigs of ram with two
GTX TITANs but that would add a lot more $$$.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:38 pm    Post subject:

Mine isn't as good as his but has the same look in graphics. He has all the details though.

PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:16 pm    Post subject:

Wolf Blass wrote:

This is mine that i got from Cyberpower 2 year ago specifically with ESO in mind Happy


CPNR2: Cyberpower Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts -- reducing the noise transmitted from Fans [+9]
CPNR3: Cyberpower Power Supply Gasket -- reducing the noice transmitted from Power Supply [+5]

Aww man, I like that noise reduction thing there Blass...I have to see if I can incorporate those mounts in my existing set-up or just buy new fans. 

My Cooler Master is nice and cool but a bit noisy at times, especially at startups or intense gaming. 

Wolf Blass
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:10 pm    Post subject:

This is mine that i got from Cyberpower 2 year ago specifically with ESO in mind Happy


*BASE_PRICE: [+2158]
CAS: Corsair Obsidian 900D Super Tower Gaming Case w/ Dual PSU Support, 3x HDD Hot Swap Bays, Front USB 3.0 & Side-Panel Window
CASUPGRADE: Ultra Violet Reactive Kit (2xUV Lights, 2xSATA2 HDD Cables, 1 xUV Gelid 120mm High Performance Nanoflux Bearing Fan with rubber mounts, Blue Colour) [+28]
CD: Pioneer BDR-208DBK 15X BLU-RAY Burner & 16X DVD+/-R/+/-RW Drive (please select the Blue Ray software in the Software section)
COOL: High-Performance Non Conductive Coolant powered by Thermochill [+9] (UV Blue Colour)
CPNR1: Cyberpower Sound Absorbing Foam -- reducing audible noise transmitted through solid case panels by up to 75% [+19]
CPNR2: Cyberpower Anti-Vibration Fan Mounts -- reducing the noise transmitted from Fans [+9]
CPNR3: Cyberpower Power Supply Gasket -- reducing the noice transmitted from Power Supply [+5]
CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-4960X Extreme Edition Six-Core 3.60 GHz 15MB Intel Smart Cache LGA2011 ***Overclockable XXX*** [+575]
CS_FAN: Max. 3 x 120mm Silent Case Cooling Fans in selected case key areas for ultra silent operation [+23] (1,200 RPM AKASA Silent Fans with Sleeve Ball Bearing 17 dBA and LED light to match the Fans already in the case)
FA_HDD: None
FAN: CP Adv MKII WaterCooling Intel Large Kit w/ XSPC RayStorm CPU Block, Dual D5 Pumps & Reservoir, AX 360mm Radiator w/ Dual Fan (CPU & GPU Liquid Cooling, Extreme OC Performance + Extreme Silence at 18dBA) [+197] (Standard Colour Tubing)
HDD: 960 GB Crucial M500 Series SATA III Gaming MLC Solid State Disk [+300] (Single Hard Drive)
HDD2: 2TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 64M Cache 7200RPM Hard Drive (Single Hard Drive)
KEYBOARD: Razer Blackwidow Ultimate 2013 Mechanical Gaming Keyboard [+111]
MEMORY: 32GB (4x8GB) DDR3/2133mhz Quad Channel Memory [+208] (Kingston HyperX Predator w/Heat Spreader)
MOTHERBOARD: Asus Rampage IV Extreme Intel X79 Chipset, 3-Way SLI / Crossfire, 4 Channel DDR3 ATX Mainboard w/ 8 RAM slots, ROG Connect, ROG UEFI Bios, BT GO, 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, SATA-III RAID, 5 Gen3 PCIe X16 & 1 PCIe X1 ***Overclockable XXX*** [+155]
MOUSE: Razer Naga Hex Wraith Red Edition 11 Buttons 5600 DPI Laser Gaming Mouse [+63]
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100/1000 GIGABIT LAN PORT -- As standard on all PCs
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows 8.1 (64-bit Edition)
OVERCLOCK: XXX Overclocking (CPU Extreme overclock: guaranteed min. 20%, max. 30%.)
POWERSUPPLY: 1000 Watts Power Supplies [+41] (CoolerMaster 1000watt Silent Pro M2 Modular Gaming Power Supply, SLI/Crossfire ready)
PRO_WIRING1: CoolerMaster Thermal Fusion 400 Extreme Performance CPU - Thermal Compound Optimized for Thermal Dissipation [+9]
PRO_WIRING2: Professional Wiring for All WIRING Inside The System Chasis - Minimize Cable Exposure, Maximize Airflow in Your System [+19]
PRO_WIRING3: Ultra Enhanced Packaging Solution Mid Tower - Protect Your Dream System During Transit [+14]
RUSH: Fast Track Service !!! Ready to Ship in 3 Business Days when purchased with Overclocking Service [+59]
UPS: None
USB1: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports [+0]
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 4GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [-153] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 4GB 16X PCIe 3.0 Video Card [-153] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO3: None, or On-Board Integrated Graphics
WARRANTY: DESKTOP SILVER WARRANTY: 3 Year Labour, 2 Year Parts, 1 Year Collect and Return plus Life-Time Technical Support [+19]
_PRICE: (+3715)

Wolf Blass
PostPosted: Sat Sep 19, 2015 1:06 pm    Post subject:

Agree Totally there with Dogma Willard i have an SSD in mine and it is awesome Happy


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